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Washington Post writer-turned-Huffington Post editor Thomas Edsall argues at length for a point that I made in passing when I interviewed a couple of months ago at the Sacramento Bee: If you're going to be liberal, or "progressive," then make no pretense of being something else. The readers don't buy it anymore anyway.
Here's Edsall, writing at the Columbia Journalism Review:
If reporters were the only ones allowed to vote, Walter Mondale, Michael Dukakis, Al Gore, and John Kerry would have won the White House by landslide margins. More specifically, reporters and editors tend to be social liberals, not economic liberals. Their view of unions and the labor movement is wary and suspicious. They are far more interested in stories about hate crimes than in stories about the distribution of income.
But, and this is a mega-but, even though the mainstream media are by this measure liberal, ending the discussion at this point would be a major disservice to both the press and the public. While the personnel tend to share an ideological worldview, most have a personal and professional commitment to the objective presentation of information, a commitment that is not shared by the conservative media. FOX News, The Weekly Standard, National Review, The Washington Times, Drudge, The Washington Examiner, The American Spectator, CNS News, Town Hall, WorldNetDaily, Insight Magazine are all explicitly ideological. FOX makes the bizarre and palpably untrue claim of ideological neutrality, “We Report, You Decide”—a claim it violates so routinely that no one takes it seriously.
While the mainstream media often fail to live up to their own standards, their committed pursuit of neutrality and objectivity is crucial to the quality of American journalism. That commitment is the main reason the mainstream press is so intensely sensitive to allegations of bias. The refusal of mainstream media executives to acknowledge the ideological leanings of their staffs has produced a dangerous form of media guilt in which the press leans over so far backward to avoid the charge of left bias that it ends up either neutered or leaning to the right. This happened at The Washington Post and was reflected in weak and sometimes fawning coverage, first of the opening years of the Reagan administration, and even more so during George W. Bush’s first term—when not only the lead-up to the Iraq invasion but key domestic initiatives went largely unexamined, with disastrous consequences.
I'd take issue with a number of particulars, but I think Edsall's broader point is right on: The press has a vast and ever-expanding trust deficit with readers and viewers, and pretending to be "objective" when the opposite is obvious to even the least-comprehending consumer is counterproductive and economically ruinous.
Edsall goes on to offer several interesting suggestions for how the media should reposition itself. He ends with the following:
Although it is the subject for another essay, the fact is that there are very few good conservative reporters. There are many intellectually impressive conservative advocates and opinion leaders, but the ideology does not seem to make for good journalists. In contrast, any examination of the nation’s top reporters over the past half-century would show that, in the main, liberals do make good journalists in the tradition of objective news coverage. The liberal tilt of the mainstream media is, in this view, a strength, but one that in recent years, amid liberal-bias controversies, has been mismanaged.
That is indeed a subject for another essay, and I think here Edsall's biases get the better of him. Why are there so few good conservative reporters? Perhaps because like attracts like. Journalism, in the main, attracts a certain type of personality and temperament. At the risk of over-generalizing, that personality tends to gravitate toward do-good causes. For whatever reason, many conservatives are simply not wired that way. But the lack of intellectual diversity in America's newsrooms has contributed to the media's implosion.
Again, it's not that Americans do not want straight news, or prefer opinion to fact -- although there does seem to be a sizable segment of the choir that prefers to be preached to by safe and predictable ministers of the liberal or conservative Gospel. Don't forget: "Objectivity" is a mostly 20th century phenomenon. Nobody outside the serene cubicles of a modern newsroom believes that objective journalism guarantees accuracy or truth. Often, the opposite is true. And, let's face it, the republic survived and thrived with openly partisan journalism. It might have been a bit more vicious, but there was a certain honesty in the old journalism.
Comments
Good post, Ben
When Edsall says conservatism isn't compatible with sound journalism, he reveals his own ideological blindness. Among liberals, the role of journalists is to, as Mother Jones said, to afflict the comfortable and comfort the afflicted. He's right: that's not a conservative philosophy. So long as the MSM sees that left-wing agenda as it's mission, alternative outlets (flawed as they may be as purveyors of "balance") will leave the prestige press in their wake.
I'm not sure what this means for our system of self-government, but the MSM brought it on themselves.
Afflicting the comfortable ...
Let's put aside the absurdity that "conservatives don't make good journalists." A a conservative who has been a journalist, I naturally say that's hogwash.
But Rick writes:
Really? That's what liberals do best? I don't see the liberals in the MSM doing much "afflicting" of the comfortable people in the Obama administration and the Democratic Congress.
I could go on and on. That Mother Jones quote long ago became a joke. The MSM's new motto is more accurately stated: Afflict conservatives and comfort liberals.
Ben, you say that "Edsall's
Ben, you say that "Edsall's broader point is right on" but I'm having trouble reconciling your words here:
with his words here:
and here:
It sounds to me like he is saying that the media may be socially liberal, but they are by and large objective and neutral. But you are saying they are only pretending to be objective, and the farce is plainly obvious to everyone. Those sound like quite opposite views of of the media. I'm puzzled.
Oh, and I'm pleased to see that some conservatives recognize Fox News for what it is. Good on you Deregulator (or my apologies if I'm misinterpreting you). This raises a question that has been bothering me for a while. Do people here self-identify more as conservative or libertarian?
Self-identification
Do people here self-identify more as conservative or libertarian?
I'm not sure our self-identification is going to be as helpful as how those of us who know one another would describe the others. (e.g. I would consider Ben & Joel's description of my leanings to be more accurate than my own.) The reason is that while we all have idealized perceptions of how we align with certain principles, in my opinion "the direction that the knee jerks" is a more honest reflection of what ideas have embedded themselves so deeply into our souls that we can't resist them.
So, for myself, I can say that while I would self-identify as a "Paleolibertarian", I know that my sense of having been betrayed by the Republican party is so deep and raw right now that my knee jerks toward certain liberal sentiments - e.g. I still believe that all taxation is theft, but if you're going to steal my money, I would much rather you give it to the poor or spend it on universal healthcare than on killing civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan or lining the pockets of bankers.
I don't know if that's how those who know me best (on this blog, that would be Ben, Joel and Brad) would interpret where I'm at, though, so I welcome their description.
Civilian Targets
The US military does not target Civilians.
The insurgents and terrorists do, and they also make sure they are between themselves and the US military.
Re: Civilian Targets
The US military does not target Civilians.
That is absolute ahistorical bullshit. Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Tokyo, Dresden - all bombings where civilians were targeted intentionally to "break the spirit" of the enemy, and that was just in one war. And don't forget the almost genocide-level killing of civilians in the Philippines, the slaughter of American Indian tribes, and Sherman's ruthless attacks on civilians in the Civil War.
Sherman, the man, the ledgend
Sherman did not 'attack' civilians in the Civil War. That is Southern revisionist history. He fought them when they fought him.
The burning of Columbia has never been established as a willful act by Sherman.
The destruction of Southern resources was at the time a fully justified act in a time of war to cripple the enemy's ability to wage war. The use and taking of Southern resources (food, cotton, etc) for his army, which was operating in enemy territory was also at the time a fully justified act in a time of war.
And his words live on as a waring to all:
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"Every attempt to make war easy and safe will result in humiliation and disaster."
"I know I had no hand in making this war, and I know I will make more sacrifices to-day than any of you to secure peace. "
"This war differs from other wars, in this particular. We are not fighting armies but a hostile people, and must make old and young, rich and poor, feel the hard hand of war."
"War is cruelty. There is no use trying to reform it. The crueler it is, the sooner it will be over."
Re: Civilian targets
I think, broadly speaking, the U.S. does avoid targeting civilians in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. But it's also true that civilians are regularly killed nonetheless by our guns, bombs and missiles. And it may not really matter to the folks on the ground that we didn't really mean it; every civilian that dies creates a little more bad feeling against the U.S.
If we were fighting regular wars, this might not matter. But if we make, say, 19 guys really angry at us because we accidentally bombed their families ... well, we know what can happen.
The United States has a real problem with being smitten with our own good intentions.
Re Re
The US Military does not target civilians.
When the enemy fights from within or behind the civilian population, and the civilians get caught in the crossfire;it is on the enimies heads. The US Military is currently willing to sacrifice its own to minimize the risk to civilias.
But I guess even that will never satisfy some.
How many civilians did Saddam kill intentionally?
How many civilians did the Taliban kill intentionally?
How many civilians has AlQ killed so far?
Re Re
The US Military does not target civilians.
When the enemy fights from within or behind the civilian population, and the civilians get caught in the crossfire;it is on the enimies heads. The US Military is currently willing to sacrifice its own to minimize the risk to civilias.
But I guess even that will never satisfy some.
How many civilians did Saddam kill intentionally?
How many civilians did the Taliban kill intentionally?
How many civilians has AlQ killed so far?
Self-ID and the political spectrum
You make a good point about others perhaps knowing us better, although I think internet postings (and any "off the cuff text correspondence like email) are a low rung on the ladder of communication. A lot is lost when you can't judge a person's body language or tone of voice.
My questions was also arbitrarily limiting. I've often wondered how best to model the political/philosophical spectrum; obviously a 1 dimensional line, left and right, is insufficient. The 2-dimensional space with axes of Liberal-Conservative and Libertarian-Authoritarian(?) is better, but then I consider that the L-C axis can be bifurcated with a Fiscal-Social dimension. I think this is fertile ground for a Poli Sci/Math PhD paper, and I think I'm digressing too far (and only on my second glass of wine too).
For the record, I self-identify as a Liberal with some Libertarian tendencies. I want a strong safety net, and I want government regulation over industry (I have a distrust of corporations and the power they hold over society), but I want the government out of individual's private lives.
In fairness to Ron ...
I think it's clear from the context of his comment that he's talking about the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Civilians in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan
The US military has been in the unfortunate position of having to kill civilians in these three countries as well. Now, it's probable that most of the casualties were unpremeditated and/or unavoidable, but there have been highly publicized (and thankfully rare) stories where they weren't.
As I said
The US Military does not target civilians.
In fact, it takes great risks with its members to avoid civilian casualties, and punishes those who do.
btw, here's a little tidbit on why America was willing to attack Japan with fire:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_balloon
And you may find it interesting to look at what was planned before the Atom Bomb. Operation Downfall, the invasion of Japan during World War II, was to involve >1.5 million soldiers, 3 million more in support. That's about 40% of all servicemen still in uniform in 1945, using two amphibious assaults. Casualties were expected to be extremely heavy. Admiral William Leahy estimated more than 250,000 Americans killed or wounded on one assault alone.
The goal was unconditional surrender of Japan. Why unconditional? So that we could be assured that Japan would not again threaten us or its neighbors.
In other words, complete Military Victory created the means necessary for a Political Solution, which was to transform Japan to a Democracy.
Back on topic
The indispensible Mr. Geraghty makes a nice point about the role of the media as watchdogs (and uses the phrase!)
I'm going to pee myself with laughter...
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/12/white-house-escalates-war-wor...
Calling Fox News "a wing of the Republican Party," the Obama administration on Sunday escalated its war of words against the channel, even as observers questioned the wisdom of a White House war on a news organization.
"What I think is fair to say about Fox -- and certainly it's the way we view it -- is that it really is more a wing of the Republican Party," said Anita Dunn, White House communications director, on CNN. "They take their talking points, put them on the air; take their opposition research, put them on the air. And that's fine. But let's not pretend they're a news network the way CNN is."